tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371473151713440963.post5892361033866881296..comments2024-03-10T13:29:20.807-04:00Comments on Truetorah - A response to Naftali Zeligman's "Letter to my Rabbi.": Evidence of the Divine Origin of the Torah 2.0Meir Goldberghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06796098220212252344noreply@blogger.comBlogger217125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371473151713440963.post-51500354586815875142022-08-02T06:22:24.485-04:002022-08-02T06:22:24.485-04:00http://altercockerjewishatheist.blogspot.com/2017/...http://altercockerjewishatheist.blogspot.com/2017/06/kuzari-argument-part-13_28.html And his dialogue with Rabbi Gottlieb is also there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371473151713440963.post-56594959480464900402022-08-01T04:30:12.559-04:002022-08-01T04:30:12.559-04:00http://altercockerjewishatheist.blogspot.com/2017/...http://altercockerjewishatheist.blogspot.com/2017/06/kuzari-argument-part-13_28.html and the follow up response to Rabbi Gottlieb http://altercockerjewishatheist.blogspot.com/2019/03/kuzari-argument-part-22-or-miracle-of.htmlDavid Applehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02872534603220776882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371473151713440963.post-44141635406607202652022-08-01T04:27:31.613-04:002022-08-01T04:27:31.613-04:00http://altercockerjewishatheist.blogspot.com/2022/...http://altercockerjewishatheist.blogspot.com/2022/02/kuzari-argument-part-26-national.html ACJA responds to Rabbi GottliebDavid Applehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02872534603220776882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371473151713440963.post-51869918177273659342022-08-01T04:22:07.543-04:002022-08-01T04:22:07.543-04:00http://altercockerjewishatheist.blogspot.com/2022/...http://altercockerjewishatheist.blogspot.com/2022/02/kuzari-argument-part-26-national.html response to Rabbi GottliebAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371473151713440963.post-44300418844611959162022-08-01T04:20:36.772-04:002022-08-01T04:20:36.772-04:00ACJA responds to Rabbi Gottlieb http://altercocker...ACJA responds to Rabbi Gottlieb http://altercockerjewishatheist.blogspot.com/2022/02/kuzari-argument-part-26-national.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371473151713440963.post-60308005327060545912020-07-16T12:50:58.156-04:002020-07-16T12:50:58.156-04:00Your claims about Fatima and Jesus's miracles ...Your claims about Fatima and Jesus's miracles are just wrong.<br /><br />Craig Keener has argued that Paul exhibits familiarity with many traditions of Jesus found in the gospels. He also knew James (Galatians 1) and hence has a reliable source. If Craig Keener is write these stories are at least as good as shivchei habesht.<br /><br />Your claims about Fatima are also wrong. John De Marchi wrote “[The observers’] ranks included believers and non-believers, pious old ladies and scoffing young men. Hundreds, from these mixed categories have given formal testimony. Reports do vary; impressions are in minor details confused but none to our knowledge has directly denied the visible prodigy of the sun.”<br />A Yidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371473151713440963.post-69415815457074548452020-06-18T12:23:05.974-04:002020-06-18T12:23:05.974-04:00Dear readers, for some reason I cannot see new com...Dear readers, for some reason I cannot see new comments. If you have a question, please email me at mgoldberg@meor.orgMeir Goldberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06796098220212252344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371473151713440963.post-89381254361150166062020-06-17T23:16:45.876-04:002020-06-17T23:16:45.876-04:00Dear Rabbi Meir, The dispersal of the Jews may wel...Dear Rabbi Meir, The dispersal of the Jews may well operate to increase the likelihood of the survival of the Jew. Read both of ACJA's posts on Jewish Survival. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371473151713440963.post-75987767854148192882020-06-17T02:40:30.311-04:002020-06-17T02:40:30.311-04:00Dear Rabbi Goldberg,
Rabbi Gottlieb attempts to ...Dear Rabbi Goldberg, <br /><br />Rabbi Gottlieb attempts to respond to one of ACJA's ( AlterCockerJewishAtheist) refutes of Kuzari argument. However, ACJA counter responds to RG who has so far remained silent. Start here since ACJA provides all links.http://altercockerjewishatheist.blogspot.com/2019/03/kuzari-argument-part-22-or-miracle-of.html ALSO, there is now a book called Breaking The Chain which addresses Kuzari style argument see https://www.amazon.com/Reasonable-Doubts-Breaking-Second-Son/dp/1690831723/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Kuzari+%2B+breaking&qid=1592375949&sr=8-1 <br /><br />ShalomAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371473151713440963.post-71765657510972588552020-05-27T15:49:39.614-04:002020-05-27T15:49:39.614-04:00Please see the book The Astonishing Language of th...Please see the book The Astonishing Language of the Creator for similar "amazing" things in ArabicA Yidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371473151713440963.post-78344844464573304152020-05-21T21:36:49.777-04:002020-05-21T21:36:49.777-04:00I don't need proofs like that to prove God'...I don't need proofs like that to prove God's existence, all I need are the proofs from the classical theistic tradition which was developed by thinkers like Plato, Aristotle, Maimonides, Aquinas, Avicenna etc. The proofs from the Aristotelian, Neo-Platonic, Thomistic, and Scholastic philosophies do the job. For more information read Edward Feser's book:<br />Five Proofs of the Existence of God https://www.amazon.com/dp/1621641333/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_gYYXEbQ9ARS1NDavidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371473151713440963.post-16467350586663873192020-05-13T16:25:33.261-04:002020-05-13T16:25:33.261-04:00Please see this for example similar to what you ci...Please see this for example similar to what you cite for Hebrew for Arabic: https://play.google.com/store/books/details?id=dATQDwAAQBAJ&rdid=book-dATQDwAAQBAJ&rdot=1&source=gbs_vpt_read&pcampaignid=books_booksearch_viewport This frankly discredits your proof.Questioning Yidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371473151713440963.post-75355454368470972902020-01-07T18:53:27.653-05:002020-01-07T18:53:27.653-05:00How come you never finished refuting Naftali Zelig...How come you never finished refuting Naftali Zeligman?David Ynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371473151713440963.post-17826379250614718952019-12-30T11:46:27.552-05:002019-12-30T11:46:27.552-05:00Sorry about the double comments, I thought it didn...Sorry about the double comments, I thought it didn't go through the first time..David Ynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371473151713440963.post-29940696574518728502019-12-30T11:44:51.524-05:002019-12-30T11:44:51.524-05:00Hey Rabbi,
Just wanted to ask, have you heard of t...Hey Rabbi,<br />Just wanted to ask, have you heard of this book?<br />https://www.amazon.com/Reasonable-Doubts-Breaking-Second-Son/dp/1690831723/ref=pd_sbs_14_3/143-1610353-8471301?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=1690831723&pd_rd_r=9745d587-5977-4963-b182-5dc9743b2a7c&pd_rd_w=Lc78e&pd_rd_wg=sCR7n&pf_rd_p=5873ae95-9063-4a23-9b7e-eafa738c2269&pf_rd_r=TDBEC5DSRAVXFRNT1YX3&psc=1&refRID=TDBEC5DSRAVXFRNT1YX3<br />The author is one of those bloggers that wrote about the Kuzari principle and claimed they debunked it. Now he wrote a 358 book about it and claims that he "broke" the kuzari. I emailed R' Gottlieb about it because I know he has a history dealing with atheists who claimed that they debunked the kuzari principle, but he never responded back to me. I didn't read the book because I don't want to give money to the author, however the reviews basically say that they believe he definitively debunked it. Not sure if I really believe that but I just wanted to let you know that this book exists if you didn't know already.<br />Anyhow, hope the rest of your holiday goes well.David Ynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371473151713440963.post-26920760527311021312019-12-30T11:38:40.274-05:002019-12-30T11:38:40.274-05:00Hey Rabbi,
Just wanted to ask, I know you use the ...Hey Rabbi,<br />Just wanted to ask, I know you use the Kuzari Principle and mention R' Gottlieb. Have you heard of this book:https://www.amazon.com/Reasonable-Doubts-Breaking-Second-Son/dp/1690831723/ref=pd_sbs_14_3/143-1610353-8471301?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=1690831723&pd_rd_r=9745d587-5977-4963-b182-5dc9743b2a7c&pd_rd_w=Lc78e&pd_rd_wg=sCR7n&pf_rd_p=5873ae95-9063-4a23-9b7e-eafa738c2269&pf_rd_r=TDBEC5DSRAVXFRNT1YX3&psc=1&refRID=TDBEC5DSRAVXFRNT1YX3<br />This guy from what I understand is one of those internet bloggers that was blogging about the Kuzari and attempting to debunk it. He published a 358 page book claiming that he "broke" the Kuzari Principle. I emailed this book to R' Gottlieb but he has not responded back to me about it. I thought you might be interested, I never read the book but the reviewers basically say that he debunked it.. IDK just letting you know. David Ynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371473151713440963.post-21376466914876429302019-12-17T07:37:51.159-05:002019-12-17T07:37:51.159-05:00Can you explain specifically which naturalistic th...Can you explain specifically which naturalistic theories you are referring to? (And not just link an article)Meir Goldberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06796098220212252344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371473151713440963.post-60496248196682031622019-12-17T06:59:46.796-05:002019-12-17T06:59:46.796-05:00The fact that naturalistic theories perfectly expl...The fact that naturalistic theories perfectly explain how it would be done discredits the proof. Whether other people do it or not is another story entirely.A Yidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371473151713440963.post-40428187858506766372019-12-16T23:23:34.275-05:002019-12-16T23:23:34.275-05:00@A Yid
OK.. so you meant the Rabbi when he said &q...@A Yid<br />OK.. so you meant the Rabbi when he said "I don't find their arguments convincing and I'll happily explain why.".. so why were using gender neutral pronouns? Are you not sure what the Rabbi's gender is or something?David Ynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371473151713440963.post-86685247525079755412019-12-16T23:12:18.738-05:002019-12-16T23:12:18.738-05:00All nice theories but the bottom line is that ther...All nice theories but the bottom line is that there are all sorts of numbers and dates that are meaningful in Judaism. The fact that the Torah picked the eighth day which coincidentally happens to be the most beneficial for clotting shows something more. You can ascribe whatever lucky theory you want. But the coincidence is too great. Why didn't anyone else except for 2 insignificant tribes pick up on it? That is why it's compelling evidence (not proof).Meir Goldberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06796098220212252344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371473151713440963.post-67580131837951284852019-12-16T22:57:02.774-05:002019-12-16T22:57:02.774-05:00@David Y See scholarship on how circumcision arose...@David Y See scholarship on how circumcision arose at https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/31778/why-is-a-male-child-circumcised-on-the-8th-day and not Christian apologetics (from Apologetics Press BTW)A Yidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371473151713440963.post-43340500675212372152019-12-16T22:50:27.746-05:002019-12-16T22:50:27.746-05:00I meant Meir Goldberg's. Gematria is meaningle...I meant Meir Goldberg's. Gematria is meaningless. Such connection occur consistently in many languages and is meaningless eg. Adeodatus has the gematria of the last full year of the papacy of Adeodatus II.For other example see above.A Yidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371473151713440963.post-42912638825277043052019-12-16T14:06:06.540-05:002019-12-16T14:06:06.540-05:00@Meir Goldberg
Well, no not really. I asked you or...@Meir Goldberg<br />Well, no not really. I asked you originally if any of the arguments that the Jewish Atheists present influence you in anyway. Then 'A Yid' wanted to explain why he doesn't find the arguments of the Jewish Atheists convincing and I said go ahead and tell me. He then asked me for a topic to give him so he can explain why he doesn't find it convincing. He has yet to respond on that. But I'd be more than happy to hear your take on it. Especially, the one about circumcision since that blogger says that there were tribes who did circumcision on the 8th day as well.David Ynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371473151713440963.post-45874750370589488272019-12-16T13:00:50.262-05:002019-12-16T13:00:50.262-05:00Is this conversation directed at me?Is this conversation directed at me?Meir Goldberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06796098220212252344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371473151713440963.post-55404967459970243972019-12-16T12:58:19.182-05:002019-12-16T12:58:19.182-05:00Also the one about circumcision on the 8th day.Also the one about circumcision on the 8th day.David Ynoreply@blogger.com